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Please show evidence. I ask you to retract this false accusation. I have not done any of these things and have no interest. Please don't spread false rumors.

you are spreading false rumors about me on your site how about you retract those first

this one?

yeah explain to me why the context behind that picture is also not shown

https://jim60105.github.io/discord-dm-20210825/ I've provided the full conversation right below this image.

BepisDB宣傳事件對話記錄

no you didn't

Bepis

you are spreading false rumors about me on your site how about you retract those first

so is that means you spreading false rumor for revenge?

you're missing the part about how you asked me to personally verify all 500,000 cards on the site

22:59

and if i couldn't, i should delete the website

アラストル Ant Y

so is that means you spreading false rumor for revenge?

i'm only going off what i've been told by another chinese user

23:00

just that there are chinese users doing that, and it makes sense that jim is involved because even though he declares my site is full of criminals and thieves, he still links it everywhere he possibly can and allows it in his discord

then give evidence or just told which chinese user told you that

why would i throw him under the bus i'd much rather just keep my claims unsubstantiated then try to backstab him. ignore my claims then

Bepis

you're missing the part about how you asked me to personally verify all 500,000 cards on the site

no, all the conversation is in the link https://jim60105.github.io/discord-dm-20210825/ also about the Kaldeqca part. Please check it.

BepisDB宣傳事件對話記錄

well i take it back, my previous conversation is in there

23:04

can't believe i was only getting 400k visits a day back then

Its redicous. You just spreading rumor for your personal revenge. You can't give evidence even who told you about that.

Bepis

just that there are chinese users doing that, and it makes sense that jim is involved because even though he declares my site is full of criminals and thieves, he still links it everywhere he possibly can and allows it in his discord

Because in my discord, I give people a certain amount of freedom of speech. I'm personally against your db, but I'm not going to restrict other users from using it.

so why are you okay with kenzato and illusion booru when they have the same if not less author control

23:05

i have complied with roughly 1000 card takedown requests

23:05

kenzato complies with 1 (edited)

23:05

illusion booru complies with 0

Bepis

kenzato complies with 1 (edited)

actually they did once with me but because i was insisting them to the point they said fine

Bepis

so why are you okay with kenzato and illusion booru when they have the same if not less author control

No, I also don't think they're OK But they didn't ask me to advertise for them in my discord, unlike you. What I dismissed was the matter of "announcement", not your db.

you do not wish for any card sharing platform to exist

23:08

because it's extremely easy for me to upload leaked cards onto pixiv. they will also comply with takedown requests much less frequently than i do

23:09

i asked for a bit of help with an announcement, and you respond by badmouthing me as much as possible

Wow many big names here today. We're missing the point here, The question is: What evidence, let you @Bepis think Jim the Admin of Chinese KK Discord join the card business, he simply lost interest in KK back then.

so whatever you want help with now, what makes you think i'll give you any other courtesy

Join or not cooperate with DB is a non issue, you'll operate the site anyway. (edited)

i'll delete the claim above if it's that much of an issue

I'm not arrogant enough to think I can sanction you, but I don't want to get involved in supporting your actions. I don't want to be hostile to the creator.

explain to me how you've been anything but hostile

23:13

your entire issue with the site is that you say that bepisdb "stealing" download counts which is killing card creator motivation i offer to help create a system to make it easy for pixiv / whatever creators to flag cards that are theirs, so they can be moved to their accounts / credited / deleted, which solves your issue you, in return, tell me to go fuck myself

23:14

you and your community are the only people who have had an issue with the way i run things

23:14

i can count 20 creators in this discord who are perfectly fine withthe way things are, because they know that i can't implement a better system yet i still give them the time of day to fulfil their requests when i could easily turn them away

Damn

I want to declare. I was responding on behalf of the management group, which was the result of a majority vote of the management group. I actually don't care about posting announcements in my discord, but the majority of admins voted against it. I personally don't want to be a part of your gossip at all. I didn't make any personal attacks, like "go fuck yourself". I don't like your db, but I personally have no opinion on @Bepis .

no you do have an opinion and you do want to be part of the gossip you literally posted on your blog "click here to view more gossip" unless that translates into something else?

23:19

this is your personal blog if you wanted to be out of the drama, you wouldn't have posted the site nor anything at all

damn

Bepis

this is your personal blog if you wanted to be out of the drama, you wouldn't have posted the site nor anything at all

I'm just showing the facts. You can see I use git techniques to make sure those are real.

bepis can't catch a break with these people

back to topic I ask you to retract this false accusation. I have not done any of these things and have no interest. Please don't spread false rumors.

Bepis

your entire issue with the site is that you say that bepisdb "stealing" download counts which is killing card creator motivation i offer to help create a system to make it easy for pixiv / whatever creators to flag cards that are theirs, so they can be moved to their accounts / credited / deleted, which solves your issue you, in return, tell me to go fuck myself

yep its true. As I remember I show you example when you went to chinese discord for advertising. no matter how you explained. many cards that distributed on pixiv were being uploaded without author's approval. 20 creators in this discord agree is fine, ask them for card then. And we're here to deal with defaming jim. How you treat what you did is your problem. We will continue to tell authors who don't want their cards to be re-uploaded that your cards have been stolen.

dude i haven't forgotten you were caught the other day sockpuppetting here

23:23

and as i have mentioned in that conversation

23:24

the way the site is moderated will stay exactly the same. for the last 2 years, and for the next 20

23:24

i literally cannot do it any other way

its the way you run your site and shouldn't affect the topic about you defaming jim for collecting free card to sell.

@アラストル Ant Y well explain to me how you're involved then because its a funny coincidence that you show up at the exact same time jim does

jim60105🦜Taiwan

back to topic I ask you to retract this false accusation. I have not done any of these things and have no interest. Please don't spread false rumors.

What I don't get is why you want him to retract it? it's not like he's accusing you of doing it,or anyone else for that matter is being name dropped

not gonna comment on that. I don't know which Jim you point out at first, but this Jim do help me out when I was still a KK card maker, I don't believe that he will reselling other one's content since there were paywalled author in CN discord.

I applaud to BepisDB willing to listen to some creator's request for returning cards to its righteous owner. But false accusation can't be tolerated. (edited)

Darwin_P

I applaud to BepisDB willing to listen to some creator's request for returning cards to its righteous owner. But false accusation can't be tolerated. (edited)

Darwin_P

I applaud to BepisDB willing to listen to some creator's request for returning cards to its righteous owner. But false accusation can't be tolerated. (edited)

true

jim60105🦜Taiwan

back to topic I ask you to retract this false accusation. I have not done any of these things and have no interest. Please don't spread false rumors.

the message was already deleted by the time you sent this message it's retracted, i don't give a fuck

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This is the most fake accusation I've ever received in the Koikatsu community. I think I should be the developer furthest away from the money in the entire Koikatsu community. All my stuff is open source, and I reject all paid request for plugins. I never use Koikatu to make money.

cool

then its ok, thank you.

Bepis

the message was already deleted by the time you sent this message it's retracted, i don't give a fuck

you are the funniest shit that I ever see (edited)

please speak english while in my server

Am I the only one who's surprised how many people suddenly showed up?

23:31

it's no coincidence

Especially over a single generalized comment without any names attached

oh i attached jims name lol

Oh,I didn't know it was THAT Jim, i though he only made mods

I'm in awe of your tolerance tbh

btw, I suggest make a disclaimer here, something like: "we can't make sure all the cards are from original author, if you want to protest your content on db, pleas contact... "blahblah something like this.

No wonder you like bug monster girls

4BEraser

btw, I suggest make a disclaimer here, something like: "we can't make sure all the cards are from original author, if you want to protest your content on db, pleas contact... "blahblah something like this.

it's kind of a moot point because if someone finds their card on the site and they want it removed, they'll either immediately report the card or contact me because it's not something you really need instructions to do, it's common sense

23:35

probably end up contacting me regardless while the reporting system is still clogged up with spam

still it will give a better impression

rulya

No wonder you like bug monster girls

unfortunately my heart is still on loan to rabbit and cow girls

23:36

probably wolf too

Pleased Chomusuke

Oh,I didn't know it was THAT Jim, i though he only made mods

There is only one Jim in Koikatsu's Chinese community.

Bepis

unfortunately my heart is still on loan to rabbit and cow girls

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4BEraser

still it will give a better impression

I know I mainly lurk here but I agree, it will get rid of a lot of bullshit nonsense happening recently that i've seen in reports and such

𝐑𝐄𝐅𝐈𝐂𝐔𝐋

I know I mainly lurk here but I agree, it will get rid of a lot of bullshit nonsense happening recently that i've seen in reports and such

Will it tho? The author will still come and ask Bepis to move them to their account or delete it

Pleased Chomusuke

Will it tho? The author will still come and ask Bepis to move them to their account or delete it

but their mood will be diefferent

the report system will remain a bit clunky until i can rework it into a form-based solution that allows me to easily click yes/no rather than action things manually

23:40

i can only work on so many things at once

I joined this server after being notified that someone was spreading rumors. I'm not going to be involved in anything about depisdb. I've saved the conversation above for insurance and will now leave this server. I wish you a good time. bye

so having the chinese discord council infiltrate here every 3 days to argue with me is only going to slow me down